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InsurTalks Podcast with Steve Tunstall: The Role of Insurance in Restoring SMEs

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The impact of COVID-19 has disrupted the trade and supply chain across the world and brought the world economy into a tizzy. Small and Medium Enterprises are especially in a difficult situation. They are facing huge business loss, cash crunch, and some even bankruptcy. Insurance will have a crucial role to play within SMEs in the post-pandemic world. 

To understand the importance of Insurance for SMEs and how various industries should pivot their mitigation strategies towards long term sustainability, we have Mr. Steve Tunstall, CEO and Co-founder of Inzsure.com, Singapore. 

The Inzsure platform is designed to transform the global commercial insurance industry by providing SME customers, initially in Singapore, Malaysia, and The Philippines. 

Steve has over thirty years of experience in owning, running, and future-proofing companies. He has been CEO, Managing Director, or equivalent in seven companies in four countries managing teams of up to 500 employees and based in Asia for over 20 years. Steve is also a contributing author to The InsurtechBook and author of “RISK and the Asian CEO” published on Amazon Kindle in 2016. He has deep domain knowledge in Insurtech, Fintech, commercial insurance, compliance, risk, and crisis management. He has been featured in the Top Global Influencer lists of Rising, InsurtechNews, Richtopia, and Onalytica in the areas of Insurtech, Fintech, and Blockchain. 

Connect with Mr. Steve Tunstall – LinkedIn

Here’s the excerpt from the interview:

The Impact of COVID-19 on SMEs in Asia

What’s the magnitude of the impact of COVID-19 in small and medium scale businesses — both globally and Asia specifically?

Steve: The entire world is facing the consequences of the current pandemic which is affecting everybody with no exceptions. 

Some sectors like the hospitality and travel industry have been hit the most. Along with these, service providers and manufacturers have also been affected. Oil industry unexpectedly also saw an all-time low in this crisis. The Global Supply Chain was an obvious sector to get disrupted. The supply chains have become shorter and duplicate. The whole concept of Just-in-time has gone for a toss. SMEs in those affected industries need to rethink their business and close down if necessary. 

The time is tricky and if there’s a short lock-down period, then it will have grave consequences to humankind. Massive spikes in infections will lead to a huge overload on the healthcare system. It’ll create a painful situation for medical professionals where they’ll have to make difficult life-death decisions based on the facilities available. 

However, on the other hand, longer periods of lockdowns will suffocate GDP and damage businesses. Most SMEs can survive if they are in the hot sectors. Once the lock-downs extend more than 2-3 months, it’ll be traumatic to the global GDP. We have already lost 25% of the global GDP. A lot of businesses might go bankrupt and the government cannot bail out everyone. 

These are gloomy times, but business managers and business owners need to think about how to pivot their business and find some sort of viable solution for this.  

The Rise of Digital Insurance Models

Insurers are taking the distribution process online. How are the Insurers adjusting to this new model and how has the customer response been in Singapore?

Steve: Transition towards online sales is a moving target. It has been happening for quite some time now and will accelerate all the more. In the UK around 70-90% of insurance policies are sold online before COVID-19 outbreak. If we split Life and Non-life and further split non-life into Personal and Commercial Insurance, there are three broad buckets-

Life Insurance- This line of insurance is not bought but rather sold. It’s a process to educate people and has a long sales gestation period. It involves a lot of interaction between insurance sales agents and an individual. Even big Life insurance companies are dependent on agents for sales. 

Personal Insurance- This line includes health, travel, motor, property insurance which is mostly sold online. Wealthier economics tend to have more online stuff than developing ones. It’s a bit patchy. But in personal insurance lines, many policies can be bought online in many countries.

Commercial Insurance- This line is the slowest of the three to adopt technology particularly the intermediaries. SMEs should be a good target for online but we have seen very little traction in Asia. Large companies are much slower in the adoption of digital technology and rely on face-to-face interaction with brokers. 

Covid-19 has become an accelerator for online especially for Life and Personal Insurances. Broadly speaking, 80% of the personal and life insurance are standardized. Only 20% need underwriting input. In Commercial lines, 20% is commoditized and 80% is bespoke. It is still a long journey. We have already seen insurance being sold online in the US and Europe and seem to go ahead in Asia. 

Many Insurers have been resisting online and commoditization for years. But giving customers choice, trust and transparency is the way to improve overall penetration in Insurance. 

The Importance of Insurance for SMEs

Since the pandemic started, fewer businesses (especially SMEs) are seeking insurance because of the loss of cash flow. How do you think your platform could help SMEs in this current situation?

Steve: It’s a common human tendency that you don’t need an umbrella during a light shower so you don’t buy one. But when the rain is hammering down, you go buy one only to find out that shops have run out of them. There are gaps in the knowledge about insurance. Not only within SMEs but also many businesses. 

In Asia, there’s less insurance required by the law and hence insurance does not tend to sell much. It’s the discerning and more naive one who gets sold insurance. The issue is that people do not know why insurance is a good thing and should be made a priority. Not all types of insurance perhaps, but businesses need to look at appropriate insurance which is tied to risks holding on their balance sheet. For example, fire is a big risk. Maybe not for a co-working space where data is on the cloud but for traditional businesses, you need to have insurance. 

Insurance in the New Normal

What are some new business models that Insurance Carriers are considering to meet the expectations of life in ‘The New Normal’? More specifically, where is the new business going to come from, for Insurance, over the next two years?

Steve: Around 30 years ago, businesses had their own properties for which they would need a cover, their machinery, they would operate out of a premise. But these days, most businesses do not own property, they are working in rented premises and have data on the cloud. 

There’s been a shift away from physical assets towards liabilities like loss of data, hacking, legal and regulatory obligations. All these different liability types are growing exponentially which creates a lower demand for property insurance. 

The traditional property and casualty insurance relies on historical data for calculating premiums. But for these emerging liabilities, it is difficult for insurers to get their head around its implications. Taking Cyber insurance policy for example. If businesses are not able to link the loss incurred due to cyber hacking, then insurers won’t payout. If an amazon web service goes down for the entire building, other businesses also have faced losses that accumulate losses to other companies as well. This accumulation of loss is worrying the CEOs now. This could be a huge opportunity for insurers to address these emerging liabilities in a meaningful way.

Speeding-up Claims during COVID-9 crisis

The pandemic has put a lot of pressure on health claims due to the increase in the volume of claims. What do Insurers need to do to speed-up their claims processes?

Steve: Out of all the processes in the insurance, claims appear to be the most painful and complained about. Surely, there will be an increase in claims related to COVID-19. In the US a typical COVID claim is looking somewhere between $20,000 to $100,000 but in Asia, it is much more bottom of that range. 

But on the other hand, another effect of COVID-19 is that since so many medical facilities around the world have seen a massive decline in regular doctor visits and elective surgeries. Therefore, there has been a reduction in the claims for other health ailments. We will see some of it coming in the upcoming months, probably in Q3 and Q4. For now, it has brought a balance in the number of claims.

Technology trends post COVID-19

How can technology help in sustaining the Insurance business and what are upcoming technology trends? Also, what industry will expect from technology service providers?

Steve: I believe that all the technology that is needed for insurers to work efficiently and perfectly online is already available. What is most needed is a huge change in mindset amongst the insurers. As an industry, people who build the products should not be separated from people who sell the products. 

On the customer side, insurance is not a product where you get instant gratification. Knowing the importance of insurance for SMEs, appropriate education about risk management can help. The change in mindset will impede the implementation of technology. 

Also read – 10 Most Impactful AI-based Insurance Innovations of 2019

Digitizing Insurance Processes

COVID-19 will propel insurers to increase the digitization of their operations and interactions with clients. We may also see insurers scaling back on their physical office networks and moving more people to remote working. More focus will fall on the automation of processes for greater cost efficiencies and resilience. What, according to you, are the crucial insurance processes where automation will disrupt first?

Steve: It depends upon where you are in the supply chain. The more insurers can automate their internal processes, the better. Underwriting is an area where AI plays a crucial role in making this process easy and cost-efficient. 

For insurers, when it comes to back-office functionality, cost-cutting will be a high priority due to the COVID-19 crisis. Technology can bring more efficiency to the intermediary processes making adoption of insurance for SMEs easier.

Also read – 5 Insurance Front Office Operations AI Can Improve

AI is going to be essential for Insurers to gain that competitive edge in the post-pandemic world. Check out FlowMagic— an AI-driven platform for Insurer workflows and Hitee — an Insurance specific chatbot for driving customer engagement. For your specific requirements, please feel free to write to us at hello@mantralabsglobal.com. 


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Why Netflix Broke Itself: Was It Success Rewritten Through Platform Engineering?

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Let’s take a trip back in time—2008. Netflix was nothing like the media juggernaut it is today. Back then, they were a DVD-rental-by-mail service trying to go digital. But here’s the kicker: they hit a major pitfall. The internet was booming, and people were binge-watching shows like never before, but Netflix’s infrastructure couldn’t handle the load. Their single, massive system—what techies call a “monolith”—was creaking under pressure. Slow load times and buffering wheels plagued the experience, a nightmare for any platform or app development company trying to scale

That’s when Netflix decided to do something wild—they broke their monolith into smaller pieces. It was microservices, the tech equivalent of turning one giant pizza into bite-sized slices. Instead of one colossal system doing everything from streaming to recommendations, each piece of Netflix’s architecture became a specialist—one service handled streaming, another handled recommendations, another managed user data, and so on.

But microservices alone weren’t enough. What if one slice of pizza burns? Would the rest of the meal be ruined? Netflix wasn’t about to let a burnt crust take down the whole operation. That’s when they introduced the Circuit Breaker Pattern—just like a home electrical circuit that prevents a total blackout when one fuse blows. Their famous Hystrix tool allowed services to fail without taking down the entire platform. 

Fast-forward to today: Netflix isn’t just serving you movie marathons, it’s a digital powerhouse, an icon in platform engineering; it’s deploying new code thousands of times per day without breaking a sweat. They handle 208 million subscribers streaming over 1 billion hours of content every week. Trends in Platform engineering transformed Netflix into an application dev platform with self-service capabilities, supporting app developers and fostering a culture of continuous deployment.

Did Netflix bring order to chaos?

Netflix didn’t just solve its own problem. They blazed the trail for a movement: platform engineering. Now, every company wants a piece of that action. What Netflix did was essentially build an internal platform that developers could innovate without dealing with infrastructure headaches, a dream scenario for any application developer or app development company seeking seamless workflows.

And it’s not just for the big players like Netflix anymore. Across industries, companies are using platform engineering to create Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs)—one-stop shops for mobile application developers to create, test, and deploy apps without waiting on traditional IT. According to Gartner, 80% of organizations will adopt platform engineering by 2025 because it makes everything faster and more efficient, a game-changer for any mobile app developer or development software firm.

All anybody has to do is to make sure the tools are actually connected and working together. To make the most of it. That’s where modern trends like self-service platforms and composable architectures come in. You build, you scale, you innovate.achieving what mobile app dev and web-based development needs And all without breaking a sweat.

Source: getport.io

Is Mantra Labs Redefining Platform Engineering?

We didn’t just learn from Netflix’s playbook; we’re writing our own chapters in platform engineering. One example of this? Our work with one of India’s leading private-sector general insurance companies.

Their existing DevOps system was like Netflix’s old monolith: complex, clunky, and slowing them down. Multiple teams, diverse workflows, and a lack of standardization were crippling their ability to innovate. Worse yet, they were stuck in a ticket-driven approach, which led to reactive fixes rather than proactive growth. Observability gaps meant they were often solving the wrong problems, without any real insight into what was happening under the hood.

That’s where Mantra Labs stepped in. Mantra Labs brought in the pillars of platform engineering:

Standardization: We unified their workflows, creating a single source of truth for teams across the board.

Customization:  Our tailored platform engineering approach addressed the unique demands of their various application development teams.

Traceability: With better observability tools, they could now track their workflows, giving them real-time insights into system health and potential bottlenecks—an essential feature for web and app development and agile software development.

We didn’t just slap a band-aid on the problem; we overhauled their entire infrastructure. By centralizing infrastructure management and removing the ticket-driven chaos, we gave them a self-service platform—where teams could deploy new code without waiting in line. The results? Faster workflows, better adoption of tools, and an infrastructure ready for future growth.

But we didn’t stop there. We solved the critical observability gaps—providing real-time data that helped the insurance giant avoid potential pitfalls before they happened. With our approach, they no longer had to “hope” that things would go right. They could see it happening in real-time which is a major advantage in cross-platform mobile application development and cloud-based web hosting.

The Future of Platform Engineering: What’s Next?

As we look forward, platform engineering will continue to drive innovation, enabling companies to build scalable, resilient systems that adapt to future challenges—whether it’s AI-driven automation or self-healing platforms.

If you’re ready to make the leap into platform engineering, Mantra Labs is here to guide you. Whether you’re aiming for smoother workflows, enhanced observability, or scalable infrastructure, we’ve got the tools and expertise to get you there.

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