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InsurTalks Podcast with Andrew Warburton: Delivering value-added experiences in the New Normal

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The outbreak of pandemic Covid-19 has disturbed the political, social, economic, and financial structures of the whole world. The analysis by the UN Department of Economic and Social Affairs (DESA) said the COVID-19 pandemic is disrupting global supply chains and international trade.

To understand the impact of this crisis on the Insurance and InsurTech industries, we interviewed Mr. Andrew Warburton, Sales Director, Winsure Financial to get a sense of the current situation and understand “the new normal in Insurance”. 

Mr. Andrew Warburton is a Sales Director for Winsure Financial in London, a company that specializes in providing innovative investment vehicles that can be distributed digitally to clients or through professional advisors. He is also an advisor for Insurtech Hub in Istanbul. With over 30 years of experience in the global Insurance/Banking industry he believes that Insurtech and fintech are the only way forward to be relevant in the new digital age. Andrew has an international Sales and Marketing background working in Senior Executive positions with large multinationals in 6 countries.

Connect with Mr. Warburton – LinkedIn

The excerpt from the interview with Mr. Andrew Warburton:

The Impact of COVID-19 in the Insurance Industry

Almost every business has been affected by COVID-19 severely. What are the direct and indirect implications on Insurance?

Indeed the COVID-19 pandemic has deeply impacted the market. In Turkey as well, there’s a drastic reduction in new businesses. There are 3 major areas of impact due to this crisis in Insurance-

Claims– There’s been a spike in claims especially in Travel, Health, and Life Insurance lines. Death rates in western Europe and the USA might have been up by 50% on a monthly figure. The impact may not be huge as more elderly people are parting away and they don’t have the same needs as that of younger families. However, Travel Insurance has been deeply affected due to lockdowns and people avoiding travel in general as a precautionary measure. 

Customer Engagement Another area where the Insurance sector is facing a problem is how to reach customers? Selling agents are no longer welcome knocking on the door due to the lockdowns. It is very difficult for banks and insurance companies to reach their customers in the normal fashion.

Economic Slowdown– Many people are drawing negligible salaries or in some cases no salaries at all. But they still have to pay insurance premiums which are an additional burden on them. 

Insurance is a kind of business where sale is prompted in some way. It may not be the case for some Insurance lines such as car insurance which is bought online in many countries. Without that prompt, probably people won’t buy insurance. Moreover, times like these where there is a cash crunch, insurance might be the last thing in people’s minds. 

Changing Customer Preferences

In a post-pandemic World, will insurance ever be bought offline? Or have we crossed the threshold for now buying policies purely online?

It’s quite a mixed bag of what we see around the world where some countries are quite advanced in digital sales. On the other hand, some countries still prefer manual processes. In this first wave of the pandemic, developing countries have not been impacted compared to the sort of lockdown. We have seen platforms like Alibaba, Amazon, and food delivery apps where people are spending more time on it and ordering food online. Insurance too will see a similar trend towards more online sales.

Customer Expectations from Insurance

Consumers, now more than ever are seeking value-added experiences with the products & services they buy. How will these expectations amidst this Pandemic backdrop impact new product innovation within insurance? 

Many insurance companies have a lot of data about their customers such as where they live, their buying habits, etc. For example, if they have a car how many miles do they do every day, where do they go, where’s the car parked or when do they go to the airport, etc. This data has not been used in the past but it enables us to determine premium based on which part of the district they live. There’s a lot of data available, but companies are not able to extract and use it to their benefit. Companies want to invest in Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning to understand customer behavior and give a personalized experience. That is happening currently in health insurance and car insurance. Certainly, Insurers will look forward to investing in these technologies in the coming months.

Impact of COVID-19 in AI Adoption

Many Insurance regulatory bodies are introducing sandboxes for Insurtech startups to experiment with AI and new cost optimization technologies. How does this pandemic impact the Insurance industry in terms of AI adoption? Will AI remain a priority?

Certainly AI will still be a priority. Everybody believes that AI will have the most impact on the Insurance industry. Nobody could have predicted this pandemic coming. One cannot plan for situations like these. But AI will help us cope with the pandemic better. Coming to the sandboxes, it has made it much easier for the Insurtechs to connect with Insurance companies.

Risk Mitigation Strategies in Insurance

What are the strategies to mitigate risks in insurance?

Insurers are investing in AI-driven products which require digital platforms to reach to the customers. Digital channels such as chatbots will play a key role in getting potential clients, create leads, upsell or cross-sell, etc. Many Insurers in developed countries have not invested much in digitalization. Digitalization will be a key mitigation strategy.

The New Normal in Insurance

What will be the new normal/upcoming Insurtech trends across the globe?

There are three areas in technology that are popular- Artificial Intelligence, Internet of Things, and Blockchain. The world probably is not yet ready for blockchain but AI and IoT combined have a big impact. It’s a common misunderstanding that if AI is plugged into data, it’ll create magic tricks. But it doesn’t. Digitalization is the step one and creating data is step two. What you do next to make a difference is the key which is AI. AI can be used to detect fraud and calculate premiums. IoT can help connect with clients at home and blockchain will have a huge potential in the Insurance sector.


AI is going to be essential for Insurers to gain that competitive edge and adat to the new normal in the post-pandemic world. Check out FlowMagic— an AI-driven platform for Insurer workflows and Hitee — an Insurance specific chatbot for driving customer engagement. For your specific requirements, please feel free to write to us at hello@mantralabsglobal.com. 

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Why Netflix Broke Itself: Was It Success Rewritten Through Platform Engineering?

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Let’s take a trip back in time—2008. Netflix was nothing like the media juggernaut it is today. Back then, they were a DVD-rental-by-mail service trying to go digital. But here’s the kicker: they hit a major pitfall. The internet was booming, and people were binge-watching shows like never before, but Netflix’s infrastructure couldn’t handle the load. Their single, massive system—what techies call a “monolith”—was creaking under pressure. Slow load times and buffering wheels plagued the experience, a nightmare for any platform or app development company trying to scale

That’s when Netflix decided to do something wild—they broke their monolith into smaller pieces. It was microservices, the tech equivalent of turning one giant pizza into bite-sized slices. Instead of one colossal system doing everything from streaming to recommendations, each piece of Netflix’s architecture became a specialist—one service handled streaming, another handled recommendations, another managed user data, and so on.

But microservices alone weren’t enough. What if one slice of pizza burns? Would the rest of the meal be ruined? Netflix wasn’t about to let a burnt crust take down the whole operation. That’s when they introduced the Circuit Breaker Pattern—just like a home electrical circuit that prevents a total blackout when one fuse blows. Their famous Hystrix tool allowed services to fail without taking down the entire platform. 

Fast-forward to today: Netflix isn’t just serving you movie marathons, it’s a digital powerhouse, an icon in platform engineering; it’s deploying new code thousands of times per day without breaking a sweat. They handle 208 million subscribers streaming over 1 billion hours of content every week. Trends in Platform engineering transformed Netflix into an application dev platform with self-service capabilities, supporting app developers and fostering a culture of continuous deployment.

Did Netflix bring order to chaos?

Netflix didn’t just solve its own problem. They blazed the trail for a movement: platform engineering. Now, every company wants a piece of that action. What Netflix did was essentially build an internal platform that developers could innovate without dealing with infrastructure headaches, a dream scenario for any application developer or app development company seeking seamless workflows.

And it’s not just for the big players like Netflix anymore. Across industries, companies are using platform engineering to create Internal Developer Platforms (IDPs)—one-stop shops for mobile application developers to create, test, and deploy apps without waiting on traditional IT. According to Gartner, 80% of organizations will adopt platform engineering by 2025 because it makes everything faster and more efficient, a game-changer for any mobile app developer or development software firm.

All anybody has to do is to make sure the tools are actually connected and working together. To make the most of it. That’s where modern trends like self-service platforms and composable architectures come in. You build, you scale, you innovate.achieving what mobile app dev and web-based development needs And all without breaking a sweat.

Source: getport.io

Is Mantra Labs Redefining Platform Engineering?

We didn’t just learn from Netflix’s playbook; we’re writing our own chapters in platform engineering. One example of this? Our work with one of India’s leading private-sector general insurance companies.

Their existing DevOps system was like Netflix’s old monolith: complex, clunky, and slowing them down. Multiple teams, diverse workflows, and a lack of standardization were crippling their ability to innovate. Worse yet, they were stuck in a ticket-driven approach, which led to reactive fixes rather than proactive growth. Observability gaps meant they were often solving the wrong problems, without any real insight into what was happening under the hood.

That’s where Mantra Labs stepped in. Mantra Labs brought in the pillars of platform engineering:

Standardization: We unified their workflows, creating a single source of truth for teams across the board.

Customization:  Our tailored platform engineering approach addressed the unique demands of their various application development teams.

Traceability: With better observability tools, they could now track their workflows, giving them real-time insights into system health and potential bottlenecks—an essential feature for web and app development and agile software development.

We didn’t just slap a band-aid on the problem; we overhauled their entire infrastructure. By centralizing infrastructure management and removing the ticket-driven chaos, we gave them a self-service platform—where teams could deploy new code without waiting in line. The results? Faster workflows, better adoption of tools, and an infrastructure ready for future growth.

But we didn’t stop there. We solved the critical observability gaps—providing real-time data that helped the insurance giant avoid potential pitfalls before they happened. With our approach, they no longer had to “hope” that things would go right. They could see it happening in real-time which is a major advantage in cross-platform mobile application development and cloud-based web hosting.

The Future of Platform Engineering: What’s Next?

As we look forward, platform engineering will continue to drive innovation, enabling companies to build scalable, resilient systems that adapt to future challenges—whether it’s AI-driven automation or self-healing platforms.

If you’re ready to make the leap into platform engineering, Mantra Labs is here to guide you. Whether you’re aiming for smoother workflows, enhanced observability, or scalable infrastructure, we’ve got the tools and expertise to get you there.

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